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Episode 1386May 6, 2025

Is the clean energy economy doomed?

As the world races towards decarbonization, the U.S. risks falling behind.

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So far, President Trump’s “drill, baby, drill,” agenda has proven to be a sharp turn from Biden-era climate initiatives, including the landmark spending bill, the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA). 

And thanks to President Trump’s attempts to claw back control over IRA funds, and his new budget proposal which drastically cuts climate spending, the future of America’s fast-growing clean energy economy looks uncertain. 

“The world is switching to electric vehicles, the world is switching to solar and wind,” said Christopher Knittel, economics professor at the MIT Sloan School of Management and Associate Dean for Climate and Sustainability. “And the less we do domestically, the less capability we build domestically to provide those clean energy resources, the worse off our industries will be in the future.”

Knittel explains President Trump’s efforts to phase out Biden-era climate initiatives, why some Republicans are reluctant to get rid of the IRA entirely, and why the U.S. getting left behind in a world committed to decarbonization poses a threat. 

Plus, the new Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney told President Trump that Canada is “not for sale” in a meeting earlier today. And, the REAL ID deadline is coming in hot — though not all states seem equally prepared. 

We’ll also hear from listeners about how Seattle businesses are showing love for Canadian visitors and how even children are frustrated with “shrinkflation.”

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